Existence · proposed 2 months ago
The right to be, before the right to have
Before any claim to property, status or role, each person simply exists. A civilisation could treat bare existence as its first, non-negotiable commitment — the floor beneath every other right, owed to a person for no reason other than that they are.
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Has this existed before?
Echoes natural rights (Locke), UDHR Article 3, and religious/indigenous notions of inherent worth—though usually embedded in duty or divine order, rarely as a standalone secular floor.
Where could it fail?
Boundary cases—fetuses, comatose persons, AI, animals—make 'bare existence' contestable. Without enforcement mechanisms, it risks becoming rhetorical rather than binding on institutions.
Who could exploit it?
Regimes could claim compliance by providing minimal survival while denying liberty, voice, or property—using 'you exist, that's enough' to block redistribution or further claims.
What are the unintended consequences?
A floor meant as minimum could calcify into a ceiling: societies satisfied with mere biological survival might deprioritize dignity, participation, or flourishing as optional extras.
Does it work across cultures?
Individualist framing (a right owed to 'a person') may clash with relational/collectivist worldviews where existence and worth are constituted through community, not isolated selfhood.
Does it survive generations?
Definitions of 'person' shift with biotechnology and AI; future generations may fight over who counts as bare-existing, fracturing the very floor meant to unify.
Does it work in scarcity?
Under genuine scarcity (famine, triage), guaranteeing existence for all may be physically impossible, forcing the principle into aspiration rather than enforceable practice.
Does it work in abundance?
Abundance makes the floor trivially easy to meet, raising the question whether it should then expand into richer guarantees or stay deliberately minimal.
Does it work when machines do most labour?
Detaching existence-rights from productivity fits a post-labour world well, potentially reinforcing arguments for unconditional basic provision once work no longer justifies survival.
Openings you might build on
UDHR Article 3 and Lockean natural rights already gesture toward life preceding property; this idea reframes that lineage as a single foundational commitment rather than one right among many.
If 'bare existence' becomes the only guaranteed right, states might treat minimal survival as sufficient justice, discouraging deeper investment in liberty, equality, or participation.
Severing existence from productivity aligns naturally with automation-driven economies, offering philosophical grounding for unconditional basic provision when labour no longer determines worth.
Instead of an atomic individual right, existence could be framed relationally—owed through communal bonds and mutual recognition—better fitting cultures where selfhood is inherently interdependent.
How this idea is being tested
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The Universal Declaration opens by making dignity inherent rather than granted — a right you hold by existing, not by earning.
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A right this abstract gives little guidance when concrete resources are scarce and must be divided.
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Good one as it explains things we are not aware of
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